Relax said the night man

“We are programmed to receive

You can check out any time you like

But you can never leave”

Yesterday Jess and I talked about the doctrine of eternal security (salvation), basically… its the doctrine of once saved always saved… once you have been saved you are always saved or once you choose to be saved, you can choose to give up salvation…. Losing salvation, that’s a scary thought. 

I was talking to a pastor a few months back and he said something that really hit me hard, he told me in the most dogmatic way “The doctrine of eternal salvation (once saved, always saved) is the worst of all doctrine and this doctrine has sent more people to Hell than any other doctrine there is… 

I’m not sure how this doctrine can send me to hell if God has chosen me and none can snatch me from his hand… but on the other hand, If I have chosen salvation, then I can give it back up, after all, I choose to accept God as my savior so obviously i can “un-choose”

I know this is a hard one to talk about, it’s been a point of contention for about 2025 years in the church (actually it goes back to creation) and although many great men have made dogmatic statements declaring one or the other, somehow this topic is still not settled in the church at large… WHY??

I will simply state what I have discovered after many long conversations. This is a matter of deep reflection and many hours of study, but I challenge you to do the work yourself and not lean on simple commentaries and “wise” men’s explanations. 

Did Jesus die in my place so that I may be saved from the punishment I have earned (death)?

Did Jesus actually die for the forgiveness of my sins or did he potentially die for the potential forgiveness of my sins?

Did Jesus die once for the forgiveness of my sins or does his death only cover some sin, so that I need to earn forgiveness from the rest?

If Jesus died for some, but not all of my sin, how do I figure out if I have earned salvation for the remainder of my sin?

How do I figure out how much sin Jesus covered vs how much I cover? 

If God is loving, how can he send anyone to Hell?

If God is Good, how can he not punish a guilty person for the crimes they commit?

Is God really the one that can make the determination as to my punishment? 

Shouldn’t I be able to determine what punishment is the correct level of punishment for my own sin?

Did Jesus die for all sin?

If Jesus paid the price for all sin, why doesn’t everyone just automatically go to Heaven?

If you open the book of Ephesians, you can read this letter Paul wrote to this church. It becomes very clear, very quickly that Jesus died for those he chose, and not all people… Jesus chose… well maybe Paul got it wrong or maybe we misinterpret Paul’s writing due to “Style”

Romans 8:29-30,  1 Timothy 2:4, and pretty much all of Ephesians is clearly written about this… but, is there anywhere that Paul’s influence is not involved that we discover God’s sovereignty in justice and forgiveness? 

The website “GOT ANSWERS” correctly describes it this way: 

https://www.gotquestions.org/God-is-sovereign.html

God’s sovereignty is one of the most important principles in Christian theology, as well as one of its most hotly debated. Whether or not God is actually sovereign is usually not a topic of debate; all mainstream Christian sects agree that God is preeminent in power and authority. God’s sovereignty is a natural consequence of His omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence. What’s subject to disagreement is to what extent God applies His sovereignty—specifically, how much control He exerts over the wills of men. When we speak of the sovereignty of God, we mean He rules the universe, but then the debate begins over when and where His control is direct and when it is indirect. God is described in the Bible as all-powerful and all-knowing (Psalm 147:5), outside of time (Exodus 3:14; Psalm 90:2), and responsible for the creation of everything (Genesis 1:1; John 1:1). These divine traits set the minimum boundary for God’s sovereign control in the universe, which is to say that nothing in the universe occurs without God’s permission. God has the power and knowledge to prevent anything He chooses to prevent, so anything that does happen must, at the very least, be “allowed” by God.”

The idea that God is sovereign usually only arises in conversations around personal choice. It seems we want to believe we have control in some things but then blame God for things that don’t go how we want? 

I leave you with this incomplete study of God’s divine choice: 

Do you believe God sends any person into hell that doesn’t actually want to go to hell? God gives these people exactly what they want, to be apart from God…. nobody goes kicking and screaming into hell, they all go willingly, just as nobody goes to heaven kicking and screaming, they all go willingly. 

Can a dead man save himself or bring himself back to life?

Can a dead person choose anything?

Can Jesus choose whom he chooses? 

All great questions, so how does a person get saved? If they can’t save themselves? 

If God chooses you, can you decide to go against God’s will and “unsave” yourself?

All I know is this, when I was unsaved, God saved me, I don’t know why, I just know he did… I know it was not my doing, yet I can still be held accountable for my choices. Does this mean God saw I would choose him so he chose me? That’s just not logical, he had to save me because I was dead with sins all around me and he fixed that. Please don’t misunderstand, I still sin, but now… I feel guilty for sinning, I feel remorse for being involved in the torture and murder of Jesus… and yet, he forgives me.

In the light of what Jesus did, these lyrics can mean something very different now.

Have a blessed week and thanks for reading my blog today. C.